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Hate Filled Diatribe

Submitted by Jim, Feb 1, 2014 13:33

Boy, this is a hate filled diatribe if I've ever read one. I guess it should be no surprise that some Israeli 'experts' would end up being as anti-Arab as some Arabs are anti-semetic, considering the politics and behavior of Israel and it's neighbors over the past six plus decades. But must we endure a reaction to the romanticism of the movie that is just as biased, if not more so, towards Arab tribal culture? This article is not an unbiased scholar's view of a people - It is a highly prejudiced, political screed against an enemy. It should be given even less credibility than the movie. At least the movie can be forgiven for it's poetic license. This article is no more than mudslinging, poorly disguised as historical analysis.


Save the world from an expert

Jan 31, 2014 05:04

Heaven help the world if this tripe was written by an Israeli expert.

I would have called it an anti-everything diatribe written in North Korea.

Who has resurrected the Berlin Wall? Israel.

Which country teats the surrounding countries and especially the Palestininas as sub-humans to be pushed and shoved and trodden on whenever they want? Israel.

Perhaps the 'expert' should try reading a bit of history and see what the Jews complained about (rightly) before saying that everything they do today is right.


Lots of inaccuracies

Submitted by Edward Cline, Jan 11, 2014 09:28

In reply to Ted: Yes, there were plenty of inaccuracies. For example, the still that illustrates this article is taken from the scene when Lawrence is in one of his "emotional" states, pulled in one direction to lead his army on to Damascus and bypassing a retreating Turkish column, and in another to attack the column, partly in vengeance for the slaughtered village the Turks have left behind and in part for his rape by the Turks in Derra. The column is massacred, but there is no scene depicting a German unit that successfully fought off the attacking tribesmen. Also, in that scene is shown a Saudi warrior with the green Saudi banner. However, the Saudis, who were just another tribe, were not allies of Lawrence, who was fighting for the rival Hashemites and King Hussein, so that warrior just didn't belong there. The Saudis later conquered all of the Arabian peninsula without Lawrence's help (bu with plenty of British help; by then, Lawrence, ever flighty, had retired and gone into hiding in the Army or RAF as a mechanic) under the name of Ross). Another gross inaccuracy was the attack on Aqaba. A daring charge is depicted in the movie, but in fact the Turks had agreed to a surrender and Lawrence's Arab army simply walked in. There are photographs of the "charge." I could go on with more inaccuracies and inconsistencies, but I think I've made my point.

I must agree with Berko; the movie does romanticize the Arabs in the movie, and inflates Lawrence's role in the Arabs' fight for "independence." But this romanticization of Arabs and Islam is nothing new; writers and artists have been doing that for nigh on two centuries. See Ibn Warraq's excellent book, "Sir Walter Scott: The Crusades and Other Fantasies," for example. Painting the Arabs in rosy colors doesn't do justice to them; they remain "greedy, barbarous, and cruel," in no small part because of the nature of Islam itself.



Submitted by Ted, Jan 8, 2014 20:59

I have no idea what this person is talking about. I'm sure there are plenty of historical inaccuracies and "utterly false and baseless concepts" in "Lawrence of Arabia". But if that's the premise of your piece shouldn't you, I don't know, list what specifically is wrong in the film.

Again, I'm not saying there are no inaccuracies in the movie. But you need to tell me what they are. Don't assume the reader is an idiot, but you still need to list facts. It's not that hard. "The movie said X happened, but actually Y happened."

And what on earth is up with this?:

"[W]herever there are Arabs and Muslims there is slaughter, terrorism, mass murder of both brother Muslims and "infidels,' pedophilia, the oppression of women, rape, the murder and persecution of Jews and Christians, the burning of houses of worship, and the use of weapons of mass destruction to kill civilians[...]"

First, the typo is amateurish and not worth of posting on the site of a non-profit that makes as much as the IPT makes. Second, "wherever there are Arabs there is [...] use of weapons of mass destruction"? Has an atom bomb went off in Dearborn, Michigan? Are there gas attacks going on in Malaysia? A biological weapon in the Indonesian food supply? Third, "pedophila" and "rape"? Pretty sure those happen in every ethnic and religious group. Fourth, "mass slaughter"? Is there a serial killer going around Morocco right now? Have you alerted the police?

This is a joke. I'm sorry I even considered donating to this organization. I've seen YouTube comment sections more lettered than this. Ted isn't my real name. I'm too embarrassed to put even my name on the same page as this tripe, even if it's just my first name, so I just made one up.


recognize your enemies

Submitted by Mylesman, Jan 7, 2014 06:43

I would like to think that Israel is united against those that want to revisit the pogroms. I'm not a politician, arms dealer, bureaucrat, but a simple American citizen who supports freedom and the Jewish state.

Please resist with all of your might the leftists in this country who support Islamic dictators bent on your destruction. The choice for America should be simple, support our Jewish friends who have done so much to make this world a better place.

But a dark cloud has descended over our country, and the democrat party is actively plotting your destruction. Kerry, like Clinton before him, is not your friend. They will take your money, and pretend they wish you well, but don't be deceived.

Also rest assured, you have many supporters, here and all over the world.


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